Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 20 Nov 2002 04:59:47 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 217 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.48.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1037797187 11461 127.0.0.1 (20 Nov 2002 12:59:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Nov 2002 12:59:47 GMT Here's the first part of my list I talked about on the "She's A Rainbow" thread; I've been refining it for ages, adding and working from bits of new information, and hopefully at least a large portion of it is correct - there's some new info too here about this and that - but obviously I invite corrections and discussion! Maybe, at the end of it all, this can stand as the definitive list when we've all banged out the right information....;-) Here we go (and I warn you -- this is massive!): PART ONE: Pre-The first LP (misc. tracks): COME ON (Chuck Berry) Rec: May 10, 1963* Rel: June 7, 1963 (UK 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica, Backing Vocal.** B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums. *Another version, which remains unreleased, was recorded on 16 May. **Jones doubles Mick throughout the verse; thankfully he's not that squawky voice repeating the title phrase. I WANT TO BE LOVED (Willie Dixon)* Rec: May 10, 1963** Rel: June 7, 1963 (UK B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. * An unreleased stab at I'M A HOG FOR YOU BABY was recorded at this session too. **An earlier version was recorded, along with ROADRUNNER, BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY, DIDDLEY DADDY and HONEY WHAT'S WRONG for a demo on March 11, 1963. The band also recorded PRETTY THING and IT'S ALL RIGHT BABE for another demo on April 16, 1963. The first set are on bootleg, the second aren't. Both the later songs are of course, Bo Diddley. The band did many Diddley songs onstage, and one- BRING IT TO JEROME - featured Brian on the gravelly 'Jerome' vocal. FORTUNE TELLER (Neville) Rec: Aug. 1 or 8, 1963 Rel: Jan. 24, 1964 (UK comp - SATURDAY CLUB) M. Jagger: Vocal, Handclaps, Harmonica.* K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Tambourine, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass, Harmony Vocal.** C. Watts: Drums. *Mixed down significantly on some compilations. **Wyman doubles Mick throughout most of the song. Wyman claims he didn't enjoy singing, but Brian did. Brian just helps out on the "Aaahs" here. POISON IVY (Version One) (Leiber-Stoller) Rec: Aug. 1 or 8, 1963* Rel: Jan. 24, 1964 (UK comp - SATURDAY CLUB) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Guiro**. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass, Harmony Vocal.*** C. Watts: Drums. *A Jagger-Richard song, WHAT KIND OF GIRL was recorded on this date also, but remains unreleased, and unbooted. **Apparently Jagger overdubbed a guiro, but the raspy percussion does not appear on certain mixes of the song, and therefore certain records. ***Wyman's flat Cockney tones are once again heard prominently on this song also. WAKE UP IN THE MORNING (Brian Jones-J. Walter Thompson)* Rec: Oct. 1963 Rel: Bootleg. M. Jagger: Vocal. K.Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *This was written and recorded for a Rice Krispies cereal ad. J. Walter Thompson was an ad agency. The track sounds a little like "I Wanna Be Your Man", lasts 31 seconds, and features Mick singing "...There's a crackle round the place/.../Ooh, Rice Krispies!" I WANNA BE YOUR MAN (Lennon-McCartney) Rec: Oct. 7, 1963* Rel: Nov. 1, 1963 (UK, 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocals, Tambourine.** K. Richard: Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Lead Guitar, Vocal.*** B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *The studio were this was recorded is now a book shop. **This is the first Stones song featuring double tracking. The Beatles also tried to get the Stones to record "The One After 909", but they refused unless the Beatles recorded one of their songs, "Give Me Your Hand" (rec. in demo form in Dec. '63). Obviously the Beatles didn't. ***Brian starts singing at the last line of the first verse and carries on all the way through. Near the end you hear him deviating from Mick's vocal, repeating the title phrase, accompanied perhaps by a overdubbed Mick, and also holding the last note of the title phrase just before his incredible slide solo. STONED (Nanker Phelge) Rec: Oct. 7, 1963 Rel: Nov. 1, 1963 (UK B-Side) M. Jagger: Vocal*, Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Ian Stewart: Piano. *Such as it is! THE ROLLING STONES (UK E.P.): Released Jan. 10, 1964 BYE BYE JOHNNY (Chuck Berry) Rec: Nov. 14, 1963 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocal.* B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine(?) * Brian is actually louder than Mick on the chorus on the original E.P. Eclipsing this is an exciting BBC Radio performance from early 1964, with Brian in vocal overdrive. This E.P. marks the beginning of Brian's brief "Hollies" period. After all, it's a myth that Brian was a blues purist. The Hollies were the next big thing at the time, so Brian pushed the band into poppier songs with prominent harmonies. (Ian Stewart, Stones pianist, recalls a "Hollies" thinking Brian at a gig in late '63: "Three part singin'. So Brian says to me, "I've got to have three singers. I want a microphone". And he couldn't sing to save his life". -Aftel, p.69). To this end, he engaged Wyman, the only Stone with a pop background, in the Coasters-influenced Cliftons, to arrange the harmonies for these tunes. But the phase was short lived. MONEY (Bradford-Gordy)* Rec: Nov. 14, 1963 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?) K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). *John Lee Hooker claimed he wrote this song. POISON IVY (Version Two) (Leiber-Stoller) Rec: Nov. 14, 1963* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?) K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Wyman: Bass, Harmony Vocals. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine. (?) *This is a slower, superior version than the original. Both are on the remastered HOT ROCKS CD. YOU BETTER MOVE ON (Arthur Alexander) Rec: Nov. 14, 1963* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Electric Guitar. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocal.** B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal.*** C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). *Also recorded, but remaining unreleased and unbooted, is a version of Arthur Alexander's GO HOME GIRL. **A concert review from early '64 atttributes the lead vocal of this song to Brian; whether or not that's true is lost in the mists of time. ***A version from BBC Radio reveals just how sketchy these harmonies are. Bill takes the midrange, Brian the low range. He's just growling, really. SURE I DO (Brian Jones)* Rec: Nov. 20 or 21, 1963** Rel: Not released. There's a myth that Brian never wrote a song. That's not true. SURE I DO exists on tape and acetate. It was published by Posner music Co., and is reportedly a slow number with Brian singing the lead vocal in his soft spoken mellifluous style speaking voice, not his raspy singing voice. The Stones appear as a unit on this tune. Brian told a ROLLING STONES MONTHLY reporter as late as '66 that he'd like to record "himself...I've got a fairly good voice for folky material"; (RS Monthly #23, 4/66)- I always think his rasp would have served the band well on the occasional blues, myself. *Gene Pitney may have co-written this song. ** Other demos the Stones recorded over these two days include WILL YOU BE MY LOVER TONIGHT, IT SHOULD BE YOU, SHANG A DOO-LANG, THAT GIRL BELONGS TO YESTERDAY, LEAVE ME ALONE (described by James Karnbach as an "up-tempo track with lots of piano...similar to "What'd I Say") and SO MUCH IN LOVE. All remain unreleased, and, but for brief snippets, unbooted. I WANT YOU TO KNOW (Brian Jones)* Rec: Dec. 7 or 9, 1963** Rel: Never released. Another Brian song, featuring Brian on lead vocals and harmonica. Two versions of this may exist. This is fast song, sung in the "raspy" I Wanna Be Your Man voice. *On the acetate, Brian's name was crossed out, replaced with Jagger/Richard, which was in turn replaced by Brian's name again. **The Stones recorded more publisher's demos at this session, including GIVE ME YOUR HAND (AND I'LL HOLD IT TIGHT), YOU MUST BE THE ONE and WHEN A GIRL LOVES A BOY. Some session men may appear on these tunes. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 23 Nov 2002 10:53:19 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 231 Message-ID: References: <28292-3DDBEB44-84@storefull-2356.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038077599 3339 127.0.0.1 (23 Nov 2002 18:53:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Nov 2002 18:53:19 GMT Here's the skinny on the first album plus some more: THE ROLLING STONES (LP) Rel: April 17, 1964 (UK), (GET YOUR KICKS ON) ROUTE 66 (Troup) Rec: Jan. 3, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Handclaps. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Handclaps. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. I JUST WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon) Rec: Jan. 10, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal, Backing Vocals*, Tambourine. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica, Handclaps.** B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps.*** C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. *Both the deviation from the melody at the end, and a high, slightly unpleasant "aah" right at the end. Sounds like it could easily be Keith, not Mick, except for the fact that Keith didn't sing too much in those days, and probably wouldn't have attempted something that high then. Hence, the attribution to Mick. **Live, the song would end in a vocal trade off between Mick and Brian at that time. ***A picture exists from this time depicting the rhythm section and Brian taking the handclaps. I've placed it at this session due to Keith's relative non-interest in percussion, and Mick overdubbing of three separate vocal parts, leaving the other three clear for the job during one of Mick's vocal overdubs. Mick is at the mike in the picture. HONEST I DO (Reed) Rec: Jan. 10, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. MONA ( I NEED YOU BABY) (McDaniel) Rec: Jan. 3, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal, Maracas. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: 'Tremolo' Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps(?) C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?)* *Percussion credits are hard. Bill was the band's tertiary percussionist in the studio all through the sixties, and I've attributed the percussion thus: Charlie would probably rather have played an actual instrument than do handclaps. NOW I'VE GOT A WITNESS... (Nanker Phelge) Rec: Jan. 28 or Feb. 3 or Feb. 4, 1964 M. Jagger: Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Organ. LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector) Rec: Jan. 28 or Feb. 3 or Feb. 4, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Graham Nash: Tambourine (?) Allan Clarke: Percussion*, Handclaps (?) Gene Pitney: Piano. Phil Spector: Maracas. *Reportedly a coin in a bottle, shook. I'M A KING BEE (Moore) Rec: Jan. 10, 1964* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Also recorded at this session was an early take of NOT FADE AWAY. CAROL (Berry) Rec: Jan. 3, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Handclaps. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Handclaps. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps.* *Sounds like there's more than three people clapping on this. TELL ME (YOU'RE COMING BACK) (Jagger/Richard) Rec: Jan. 28, Feb. 3 and 4, 1964* M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals, Tambourine(?)**. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Bass***, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar****, Tambourine (?)**. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *An earlier version, presumably from the January date was released on the first pressing of the album in the UK. It runs 2:52 and lacks a lot of overdubs. The U.S. 45 version of the final mix runs 2:57 to the U.K. CD's 3:47. The C.D.s fade early; on the original record, the song ran 4:05 and stopped abruptly. **Wyman (ROLLING WITH THE STONES) credits the tambourine to Jones; but also backing vocals to Jones and himself - I can hear a lot of overdubbed Mick's, but... (Mind you Wyman credits the back-ups on TIME IS ON MY SIDE (v.1) to himself and Brian, when it appears to be Keith and Brian, and also some vocals on BETWEEN THE BUTTONS to himself and Jones...that and a few mix-ups with recording dates lead me to be skeptical... ***Keith remembers "building the song up" and maybe playing bass, it's possible that a) he's wrong or b) it's a composite track. To be on the safe side, both Stones are credited with bass. ****Sounds like a 12 string. CAN I GET A WITNESS? (Holland-Dozier-Holland) Rec: Jan. 28, Feb. 3 or 4, 1964* M. Jagger: Lead Vocals.** K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Tambourine, Backing Vocal(?) B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal (?) C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. Gene Pitney: Handclaps, Backing Vocal. Graham Nash: Handclaps, Backing Vocal. Allan Clarke: Handclaps, Backing Vocal.** * Also recorded at this session was an instrumental jam logged as "Spector And Pitney Came Too" and an obscene jam known as "Andrew's Blues" featuring Jagger, Spector and Pitney on vocals. **The backing vocals are up in the air here. They're mixed down a little too much, but I believe I hear Pitney. There's evidence of Mick double-tracking his lead (or a remnant of an earlier take) in the fade out. It's very small. YOU CAN MAKE IT IF YOU TRY (Jarrett) Rec: Jan. 3, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums, Cowbell.(?) I. Stewart: Organ. WALKING THE DOG (Thomas) Rec: Jan. 3, 1964* M. Jagger: Vocal, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Handclaps. B. Jones: Vocal, Rhythm Guitar, Handclaps.** B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. *This song was a massive hit in Australia. There's footage of the Stones miming to it there in early '65. **Brian also does the whistling here. As he's louder than Mick on the chorus,I've classified it a vocal, rather than a backing vocal. Tracks recorded at this time: NOT FADE AWAY (Hardin, Petty) Rec: Probably Feb. 4, 1964* Rel: Feb. 21, 1964 (UK 45), Mar. 6, 1964 (U.S. 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal and Maracas, Tambourine (?), Handclaps (?) Backing Vocal. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Harmonica, Handclaps(?). B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps (?). C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). Gene Pitney: Tambourine (?) *An alternate take has been booted, featuring a wilder harp track. GOOD TIMES, BAD TIMES (Jagger/Richard) Rec: Feb. 25 and possibly June 11, 1964* Rel: June 26, 1964 (UK B-Side), July 24, 1964 (U.S. B-Side) M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: 12 String Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *It's quite possible that the June 11, 1964 version, recorded at Chess, is an entirely different take, and probably therefore the version released as the B-Side of IT'S ALL OVER NOW. If so, then the February version is unreleased. Then again, they could have just been overdubbing at Chess - except that there doesn't appear to be any overdubs on the track.... Also recorded on February 25 was OVER YOU (Toussaint/Orange) which was set to be the next single. Mick Jagger bought the acetate of this song in the late 90s at auction, if I remember correctly; and SUSIE Q, which appears on ROLLING STONES No. 2 in the UK and 12 x 5 in the States. In Jan and Feb 1964 the Stones appeared as session men on a version of "To Know Him Is To Love Him" sung by Jagger's sometime beau Cleo Sylvestre, and on the instrumental B-Side, "There Are But Five Rolling Stones". Both songs were recorded for a 45 on Jan. 2, 1964. The Stones appeared (but perhaps not as a unit) on three Andrew Oldham "songs" recorded on Jan. 13, 1964: "365 Rolling Stones (One For Each Day Of The Year)", "Oh, I Do Like To See Me On The B-Side" and "Funky And Fleopatra". Jagger and Richard also recorded some other demos in March: AS TIME GOES BY (Demo) (Jagger/ Richard) Rec: March 11 or 12, 1964* Rel: Only on bootleg. M. Jagger: Vocal.** K. Richard: Guitar. *Also recorded on these days, with session guitarist Jim Sullivan and session bassist Erik Ford, was a demo of NO-ONE KNOWS, which according to James Karnbach was written by Brian Jones, who presumably doesn't appear at the session, which therefore precludes him singing it. Maybe it was recorded on the second day, with Brian present. Information on this title is sketchy at best. Presumably Andrew Oldham "earned" his writing credit on AS TEARS GO BY (of which AS TIME GOES BY is a demo) by pointing out the similarities between this earlier title and that of the famous song from "Casablanca". **Horribly flat and amateurish. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 25 Nov 2002 06:18:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 110 Message-ID: References: <28292-3DDBEB44-84@storefull-2356.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.48.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038233880 11571 127.0.0.1 (25 Nov 2002 14:18:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Nov 2002 14:18:00 GMT Five By Five (and some constituent parts of the US 12 x 5 plus)...: FIVE BY FIVE (E.P.) Released Aug. 14, 1964 IF YOU NEED ME (Pickett, Bateman, Saunders) Rec: June 11, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar, Harmony Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Organ. EMPTY HEART (Nanker Phelge) Rec: June 11, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Vocal, Lead and Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Organ. 2120 SOUTH MICHIGAN AVENUE (Nanker Phelge) Rec: June 11, 1964 M Jagger: Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums I. Stewart: Organ* *An alternate version, lasting over a minute longer appeared on a German LP. Muddy Waters was reputed to have played on this version (not actually true, but on the tape box, the track has AND MUDDY CAME TOO in parenthesis). 2120 So. Michigan Ave. is the address of Chess Studios. CONFESSIN' THE BLUES (McShann, Brown) Rec: June 11, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Lead Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. AROUND AND AROUND (Chuck Berry) Rec: June 11, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. OTHER SONGS RECORDED AT THIS SESSION: IT'S ALL OVER NOW (B. and S. Womack) Rec: June 10, 1964 Rel: June 26, 1964 (UK 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: 12 String Electric Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Lead Guitar.* B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums.** *Brian may also be backing vocals, possibly turned down in the mix by Andrew Oldham. Apparently this actually happened. He certainly takes them at the TAMI Show, but is too far away from the mike to be picked up. **The Stones played the song in an arrangement closer to the original on British TV in early 1967, on Sunday Night At the London Palladium. DON'T LIE TO ME (Chuck Berry)* Rec: June 10, 1964 Rel: June 6, 1975 (METAMORPHOSIS LP) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *This song was erroneously credited to Jagger/ Richard on the first pressings of Metamorphosis, the semi-compilation LP on which it first appeared. LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE (Morganfield)* Rec: June 11, 1964** Rel: Dec. 3, 1965 (US LP, DECEMBER'S CHILDREN (AND EVERYBODY'S...) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I, Stewart: Piano. *This song was allegedly actually written by a pre-Doors Ray Manzarek, according to Manzarek's autobiography. Weird if true. **Also recorded on June 10 - STEWED AND KEEFED, an excellent bluesy, piano led instrumental featuring (obviously) Stu and Keith. On June 11, the Stones recorded stabs at HIGH HEELED SNEEKERS, MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM, REELIN' AND ROCKIN', TELL ME BABY (which was released on a German LP, the compilers mistaking it for TELL ME (YOU'RE COMING BACK)).All these tracks feature a standard Stones line-up, with solo vocals by Mick. In addition the Stones recorded a couple of tracks for their upcoming No.2 album - I CAN'T BE SATISFIED and DOWN THE ROAD APIECE (both June 10) and possibly the aforementioned 2nd version of GOOD TIMES BAD TIMES. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 28 Nov 2002 15:47:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 231 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038527220 20223 127.0.0.1 (28 Nov 2002 23:47:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Nov 2002 23:47:00 GMT To the end of '64! No.2 (Brian's favourite track was I CAN'T BE SATISFIED, Keith favoured YOU CAN'T CATCH ME): THE ROLLING STONES No. 2 (L.P.) Released January 15, 1965 EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO LOVE (U.K. Version) (Russell, Burke, Wexler) Rec: Oct. 27- Nov. 2, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano.* *The UK Version runs 4:59 to the U.S. Version's 2:57, and is a completely different (and superior) take. The U.S. Version is reportedly a run-through, but does contain overdubs. DOWN HOME GIRL (Leiber, Butler) Rec: Oct. 27- Nov. 2, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, 6-String Bass.* C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitzsche: Piano. *Overdubbed over the normal 4 string bass. Also called "Baritone Guitar" at the time. How quaint! YOU CAN'T CATCH ME (Chuck Berry) Rec: June 24-26, and Sept. 2, 1964 M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Woodblock (?). K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Sticks*, Woodblock (?). *Overdubbed seemingly separately. TIME IS ON MY SIDE (UK VERSION) (Meade) Rec: Nov. 8, 1964* M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals**, Tambourine(?). K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). I. Stewart: Organ. *This version released in the UK was recorded in the US. The US version was recorded in the UK! This UK Version starts with the guitar, not the organ. **This backing vocal, dubbed in the studio, was handled by Wyman in concert. WHAT A SHAME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Nov. 8, 1964* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Rhythm/ Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B.Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *Other songs recorded at this session are FANNY MAE (a studio version of the rip-roarer recorded at the BBC; and the "inspiration" for THE UNDER ASSISTANT WEST COAST PROMOTION MAN), MERCY MERCY (VERSION ONE) (a different, faster, jazzier version than the released version, with a different vocal arrangement); KEY TO THE HIGHWAY and GOODBYE GIRL (a song written by Bill Wyman, but sung by Mick Jagger, as usual. The song is sometimes mistakenly known as "Get Back To The One You Love" after a repeated refrain) - all remain unbooted. GROWN UP ALL WRONG (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 28 and 29, 1964 M. Jagger: Vocal, Harmonica, Backing Vocal. K. Richard: Vocal, Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar, Handclaps. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. I CAN'T BE SATISFIED (Morganfield) Rec: June 10, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Sticks*. *Again, seemingly overdubbed separately (?!). DOWN THE ROAD APIECE (Raye) Rec: June 10, 1964. M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Lead/Rhythm Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm/Lead Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I.Stewart: Piano. UNDER THE BOARDWALK (Broadwater, Lewis, Hawkins) Rec: Sept. 28-29, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Guiro(?), Finger Cymbals (?),Castanets. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Guiro (?). C. Watts: Drums, Guiro (?), Finger Cymbals(?). PAIN IN MY HEART (Neville) Rec: Oct. 27-Nov. 2, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass and 6 string Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano, 'Nitszche-phone'* *Apparently a keyboard of Jack's own invention. Mention is made of Jack playing a "toy" piano during this time. Could THAT be the 'Nitszche-phone"? OFF THE HOOK (Nanker Phelge) Rec: June 24-26, 1964 and Sept. 2, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. SUSIE Q (Broadwater, Lewis, Hawkins) Rec: Feb. 25, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. OTHER SONGS RECORDED AT THE ALBUM SESSIONS: CONGRATULATIONS (Jagger, Richard) Rec: June 24-26, 1964. Rel: Sept. 25, 1964 (U.S. B-Side). M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar, Harmony Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. TIME IS ON MY SIDE (U.S. VERSION) (Meade) Rec: June 24-26, 1964.* Rel: Sept. 25, 1964 (U.S. 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass.** C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine. I. Stewart: Organ. * Also recorded on this day was a slow, organ based Jagger/Richard original called YOU'VE JUST MADE MY DAY. Only a snippet has turned on bootleg thus far. **Wyman says he and Brian did the back-ups on this, but a photo from this time shows Keith and Brian round a mike. As there's no other likely suspects, this seems to indicate that this song featured Keith and Brian on the back-ups. Hence, this attribution (Is that a word?) LITTLE RED ROOSTER (Dixon) Rec: Sept. 2 1964 and Nov. 8, 1964.* Rel: Nov. 13, 1964 (UK 45) M. Jagger: Vocal and Harmonica(?)**. K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar, Harmonica (?)**. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *One source suggest that Jones recorded the slide on "Rooster" as an overdub, not being present on the day the track was recorded. Does this mean Brian didn't turn up for the Sept. 2, 1964 session? The only other things the Stones did on that day was (presumably overdubs) on YOU CAN'T CATCH ME and OFF THE HOOK. **Wyman says that Brian is harmonica as well as slide, although Jagger takes it live and mimes to it on tv apperances, and it's certainly not beyond Mick's capability. I would have thought it was Jagger, myself. In between the June and Sept. sessions, the Stones recorded (not as unit) a lot of Jagger/Richard songs with the so-called 'Andrew Oldham Orchestra'. Most of them turned up on the semi-compilation METAMORPHOSIS. However, they are all horrible and have nothing to do with the Stones output of the time, sounding more like sixth-rate Spector. SURPRISE, SURPRISE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 28-29, 1964.* Rel: Feb. 12, 1965 (US. LP, THE ROLLING STONES, NOW!) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?), Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). * Also recorded on this day: two unreleased and mainly) unbooted Jagger/Richard numbers, WE WERE FALLING IN LOVE and I'M RELYING ON YOU (also sometimes known, erroneously, as "I'm Just A Funny Guy") A snippet of the latter has turned up on bootleg. EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO LOVE (U.S. Version) (Russell, Burke, Wexler) Rec: Oct. 27-Nov. 2, 1964.* Rel: Feb. 12, 1965 (U.S. LP, THE ROLLING STONES, NOW!) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Handclap, Tambourine.** K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhyhm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. J. Nitszche: Tambourine.** *Also recorded on this day: three songs from the UK LP, Out Of Our Heads; HEART OF STONE, OH BABY (WE GOT A GOOD THING GOIN') and HITCH HIKE. **There are apparently two different tambourine tracks on this cut. Also, the Stones recorded a one-minute instrumental variation on Dust My Broom called DUST MY PYRAMIDS, with the unique writing credit of Jones/Richard around this time. Unfortunately, the recording appears to be lost. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 1 Dec 2002 06:34:51 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 93 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038753291 17635 127.0.0.1 (1 Dec 2002 14:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Dec 2002 14:34:51 GMT Early '65: THE LAST TIME (Version One) (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Jan. 11-12, 1965. Rel: Unbooted. This first version of the song, recorded along with an early version of PLAY WITH FIRE, called A MESS OF FIRE, features, according to vault-keeper James Karnbach, a shared lead vocal between Jagger and Jones, and is denoted as such on the tape box. Apparently the song starts with a ten second tambourine solo. Furthermore, according to Karnbach, there's a host of early Stones alternate takes which feature Brian on vocals, which were "supressed" by Oldham...however, Brian doesn't show up on... THE LAST TIME (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Jan. 17-18, 1965, and Feb. 17, 1965**. Rel: Feb. 26, 1965 (UK 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocals, Tambourine***, Backing Vocals****. K. Richard: Lead, Rhythm and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Lead Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Tambourine.*** *This song was derived from the Staples Singers' "This May Be The Last Time'. **Vocals were recorded at the Feb. session. ***There are possibly two different tambourines on this track. ****Bill Wyman sang the additional Jagger backing vocal when the song was performed live. PLAY WITH FIRE (Nanker Phelge) Rec: Jan. 17-18, 1965. Rel: Feb. 26, 1965 (UK B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. Phil Spector: Acoustic Guitar*. Jack Nitszche: Harpsichord, Tambourine (?), Bongo(?).** *Downtuned and playing the bass line. **Jones, Wyman and Watts reportedly 'fell asleep', and missed the session. A rumour exists that Chrissie Shrimpton, Jagger's then girlfriend, delviered the wrong master to the record company... GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT IT! (E.P.) Released June 11, 1965 (UK only) EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO LOVE (Russell, Burke, Wexler) / PAIN IN MY HEART (Neville)* Rec. Live: March 6, 7 or 16, 1965.** M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Prefaced by the crowd chanting "We Want The Stones!". This was actually credited on the E.P., and was noted as being written by Nanker Phelge, so the Stones could grab the royalties! This medley is not currently available on CD. "Everybody Needs.." only runs 38 seconds. **A show at Edmonton, London was recorded on March 5, but not used. (GET YOUR KICKS) ON ROUTE 66 (Troup) Rec Live: March 6, 7 or 16, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I'M MOVING ON (Snow) Rec Live: March 6, 7 or 16, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C.Watts: Drums. I'M ALRIGHT (McDaniel)* Rec Live: March 6, 7 or 16, 1965.** M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar, Backing Vocal.*** B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Credited to Nanker Phelge on some pressings. **Also recorded for use were live versions of DOWN THE ROAD APIECE and LITTLE RED ROOSTER. Both nearly made it on to the Bill Wyman compiled anthology "The Black Box", but that was replaced by Metamorphosis instead. Shame. They remain unbooted. ***Augmenting Keith's back-up with a hoarse "C'Mon, c'mon, c'mon baby" at around 1:35 or so. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 2 Dec 2002 17:21:48 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 277 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.48.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038878508 21734 127.0.0.1 (3 Dec 2002 01:21:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Dec 2002 01:21:48 GMT OUT OF OUR HEADS (L.P.) Released Sept. 24, 1965 (U.K) SHE SAID "YEAH!" (Jackson, Christy) Rec: Sept. 6-7, 1965.* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal**. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Apparently Jagger was persuaded to cover this song by none other than Paul McCartney. **Wyman handled this backing vocal when the Stones performed the song live. MERCY MERCY (Version Two) (Covay, Miller) Rec: May 10, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. HITCH HIKE (Gaye, Stephenson, Paul) Rec: Oct. 27 - Nov. 2, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead Guitar and Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar and Handclaps. B. Wyman: Bass and Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums and Handclaps. THAT'S HOW STRONG MY LOVE IS (Jamison) Rec: May 10, 1965. M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Organ. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano. GOOD TIMES (Cooke) Rec: May 11 - 12, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Harmony Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Marimba. GOTTA GET AWAY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 6 - 7, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocal, Handclaps (?). K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar, Handclaps. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. Jack Nitszche: Handclaps (?). J. W. Alexander: Tambourine*. *Alexander, Sam Cooke's former manager, turned up for the Sept. 6,7 sessions at RCA Studios in Hollywood. (I'M) TALKIN' 'BOUT YOU (Chuck Berry) Rec: May 10 - 12 or Sept. 6 - 7, 1965 (or sometime in 1963? doubtful, but..) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. CRY TO ME (Russell) Rec: May 11- 12, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead Guitar and Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano and Organ.* *Session notes do not testify to the presence of secondary keyboard player Nitszche for the May Chess / RCA Sessions, hence I've attributed both keyboards ro Stu for this song and others recorded in May. OH BABY (WE GOT A GOOD THING GOIN') (Barbara Lynn Ozen) Rec: Oct. 27 - Nov. 2, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. HEART OF STONE (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Oct. 27 - Nov. 2, 1964. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano,Tambourine(?). *The Andrew Oldham Orchestra recorded a version of this song with Jagger and Richard earlier in 1964. This version, with extra lyrics, appears on Metamorphosis. A further, and even worse Andrew Oldham Orchestra version can be heard on the soundtrack of the film Charlie Is My Darling. Excruciating! THE UNDER ASSISTANT WEST COAST PROMOTION MAN (Nanker Phelge) Rec: May 10, 1965.* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal.** K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *Also recorded on this day were the early, "folk-rock" version of (I CAN'T GET NO) SATISFACTION) complete with harmonica solo by Brian. Parts of this track were reportedly used as a bed for the famous version of the song, recorded one day later, and a stab at James Brown's TRY ME. Both remain unbooted, but a harmonica version of SATISFACTION can be seen on Shindig! May 26, 1965, which is on boot. The boys recorded backing tracks for four songs for that programme on May 20, including "Rooster","Last Time" and "Play With Fire", which Brian on harpsichord this time. Mick sang live vocals on the programme. **A couple of lines of this vocal were omitted in the shorter (by 25 seconds or so) U.S. Version, due to use of the word "ass!". I'M FREE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 6 - 7, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and (falsetto) Harmony Vocals. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. Jack Nitszche: Organ. J.W. Alexander: Tambourine. OTHER SONGS RECORDED DURING THESE SESSIONS: ONE MORE TRY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 10, 11 or 12, 1965 Rel: July 30, 1965 (US LP, OUT OF OUR HEADS) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Sticks. I. Stewart: Piano. MY GIRL (Robinson, White) Rec: May 11 - 12, 1965, Sept. 2, 1966*. Rel: July 14, 1967 (U.S. LP, FLOWERS) M. Jagger: Lead, Harmony and Backing Vocals, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Sticks (?). plus uncredited strings, flute. *The orchestral flavourings were recorded on the 1966 date. (I CAN'T GET NO) SATISFACTION (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: May 11-12, 1965. Rel: June 4, 1965 (U.S. 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar. B. Wyman: Basses.** C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). I. Stewart: Piano. *According to some people (like Noel Redding, Hendrix bassist), Brian actually authored the riff to Satisfaction. Jones would play the riff live, and twist it into the theme from "Popeye". Apparently Richard has claimed that the song was written after an aborted attempt at recording "Dancin' In The Street" at Chess, presumably on Nov. 8, 1964. Session logs apparently don't mention anything about this. **There are apparently two separate tracks on the song. Presumably one is from the May 10 recording, over which this version was apparently dubbed. THE SPIDER AND THE FLY (Nanker Phelge) Rec: May 11 - 12, 1965. Rel: July 30, 1965 (US LP, OUT OF OUR HEADS) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead Guitar. B. Jones: Rhyhtm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU TOO LONG (TO STOP NOW) (Redding, Butler) Rec: May 11 -12, 1965. Rel:(corrupted) Dec. 9, 1966 (US LP, GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT IT!)* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic and Electric Guitars. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Organ. *This had crowd noise added to it for the horrible "live" LP, Got Live..., along with FORTUNE TELLER, despite the fact that I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU TOO LONG blatantly has three guitars and a organ on it. The unfettered take, which plays host to possibly the worst vocal Jagger has ever committed to tape, appears on bootleg. GET OFF OF MY CLOUD (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 6 -7 , 1965. Rel: Sept. 24, 1965 (US 45) M. Jagger: Lead, Backing Vocals* and Handclaps. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocal and Handclaps (?). B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano. *When the song was played live, Wyman performed these backing vocals. THE SINGER NOT THE SONG (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 6 -7 , 1965. Rel: Oct. 22, 1965 (UK B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Vocal*, Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Keith sings the end of the second line of each verse unaccompanied, as well as being prominent (and off key) on the high end harmonies, leading me to attribute this song as being Keith's first "Lead" Vocal. BLUE TURNS TO GREY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Sept. 6 -7, 1965.* Rel: Dec. 3, 1965 (US LP, DECEMBER'S CHILDREN (AND EVERYBODYS...) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal. K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocal, Guitar. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Jagger and Richard recorded an 'Andrew Oldham Orchestra' version of this song in 1964. The Stones didn't do many Oldham Orchestra sessions in '65, but for one that February, which produced another tawdry version of a third rate Jagger, Richard song- in this case one called 'I'd Much Rather Be With The Boys'. It's on Metamorphosis. SALTY DOG (Trad. arr. Nanker Phelge) Rec (live in a dressing room) Sept. 3 or 4, 1965.* Rel: 1966 (film soundtrack, CHARLIE IS MY DARLING) M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Vocal. B. Jones: Vocal. C. Watts: Silly Noises. *Doodled in a Irish dressing room, by Keith on acoustic guitar and vocals, joined by first Mick then Brian who bellows the pay off line - "I just wanna be your Salty Dog" - in a voice halfway between his speaking voice and his raspy "Wanna Be Your Man" voice, this trad. arr. British folk tune lasts about a minute and a half between detriotating into a litany of proto-Monty Python noises from Charlie. AS TEARS GO BY (Jagger, Richard, Oldham) Rec: Oct. 26, 1965. Rel: Dec. 3, 1966 (US LP, DECEMBER'S CHILDREN (AND EVERYBODY'S...)) M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. Mike Leander: String Arrangement. plus uncredited strings. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 4 Dec 2002 05:07:24 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 282 Message-ID: References: <3dec18fc.17375093@localhost> <3decc17a.60516025@localhost> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1039007244 30033 127.0.0.1 (4 Dec 2002 13:07:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Dec 2002 13:07:24 GMT Now we start getting to the really cloudy line-ups, but hey, could YOU walk on water? ;-) AFTERMATH (LP) Released: April 15, 1966 MOTHER'S LITTLE HELPER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3-8, 1965 M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Electric and 12-string Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: 12 string Guitar*. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Usually mistakenly claimed to be a sitar. STUPID GIRL (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 3-8, 1966 M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals*, Castanets(?). K. Richard: Lead Guitars, Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?) I. Stewart: Organ. Jack Nitszche: Tambourine (?). *This backing vocal was performed by Wyman when the song was performed live. LADY JANE (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: March 3 - 8, 1966. M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Dulcimer. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Bells and Claves. Jack Nitszche: Harpsichord. *This song was actually largely written by Jones (music) and Jagger (lyrics). UNDER MY THUMB (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 3 - 8, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Handclaps(?). K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars.* B. Jones: Marimbas.** B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. Jack Nitszche: Piano, Handclaps (?). *Richard complained that at this time Brian rarely, if ever, took part in the recording of the rhythm tracks, just "overdubb[ing] his scenes later". **There could possibly be a second marimba track mixed down low. DONCHA BOTHER ME (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Rhythm Guitars. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Sticks (?). I. Stewart: Piano. Jack Nitszche: Woodblock (?). *This song was originally called "Don't You Follow Me" when set for release on Aftermath's unreleased predecessor, Could You Walk On Water?, which was nearly released in February 1966. GOIN' HOME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Shaker, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums.* I. Stewart: Piano. Jack Nitszche: Tambourine. *The drums cut out for a few seconds at one point because Keith threw his coat at Charlie in a vain attempt to stop the song, or so the story goes. FLIGHT 505 (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitars, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano.** *The Stones actually flew to the U.S. for a tour on Flight 505 in 1965. The song was apparently inspired by the death of long time Jagger hero Buddy Holly. **Playing (of course) a snippet of SATISFACTION in the intro. HIGH AND DRY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Cymbal. OUT OF TIME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966*. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Finger-clicks. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Marimba. B. Wyman: Bass, Bells,** Tambourine(?).*** C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Organ. Jack Nitszche: Piano.**** *Jagger would record a guide vocal for Chris Farlowe's UK hit version of this in May 1966. This appeared on Metamorphosis. The other musicians were session men, including Andy White, the drummer who played on the beatles' "Love Me Do" in lieu of Ringo in 1962. Jagger produced the session. **Wyman gets a credit for marimbas or bells on the LP, so by process of elimination (even though the credits for both the UK and US LPs seem tob e just for the US LP in actuality), I've put it here. ***Wyman is shown in a photograph during these sessions playing tambourine with a shoe, a fact which stuck in Oldham's mind too in the sleevenotes for BIG HITS, again, by process of elimination (and the fact that it does sound slightly heavy-handed, and maybe hit with something other than a hand), I'm sticking it here. ****The U.S. Version of this song is almost two minutes shorter at 3:42 than the U.K. Version, which runs 5:38. The same take is used for both versions; the U.S. Version just fades early. IT'S NOT EASY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal*. K. Richard: Lead Guitar(s?), Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm / Lead Guitar(?), Organ (?)**. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *This backing vocal is sometimes misattributed to Jones for some reason; it's not. It's Jagger. **Brian said that he and Stu played keys on the fast ones, and Jack played on the slowies on the AFTERMATH sessions; never seen a mention of a non-Stone on this song (though that really means NADA!), but I'll give it tentatively to Brian. I AM WAITING (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Harmony Vocal. B. Jones: Dulcimer. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Tambourine. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Harpsichord. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Finger-Cymbals. I. Stewart: Organ. THINK (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. WHAT TO DO (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Handclaps. K. Richard: Guitar, Acoustic Guitar (?),Backing Vocals, Handclaps (?). B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar (?), Piano,(?), Handclaps (?). B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. OTHER SONGS RECORDED DURING THESE SESSIONS: SITTIN' ON A FENCE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. Rel: July 14, 1967 (U.S LP, FLOWERS) M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar, Harpsichord. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Tambourine. SAD DAY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. Rel: Feb. 11, 1966 (U.S. B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Shaker. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Electric Piano. 19th NERVOUS BREAKDOWN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965. Rel: Feb. 11, 1966 (U.S. 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals.* K . Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Basses.** C. Watts: Drums.*** *A different vocal take exists on bootleg. **Two apparently separate tracks, but once again, it's up in the air. ***Due a tape fault, the master of this 45 slows down near the end. RIDE ON, BABY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Dec. 3 - 8, 1965.* Rel: July 14, 1967 (U.S. LP, FLOWERS) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Guitars, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Harpsichord, Marimba, Autoharp(?)**. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Congas, Tympani. Jack Nitszche: Piano. *Other songs recorded on these days are LOOKING TIRED, a much-booted laid back country style song featuring Stu on piano, and AFTERMATH, a bluesy instrumental. **I think that's what it is; Brian bought a koto at the same time he bought the dulcimer and sitar,according to an interview at the time, but I've played both instruments, and it sounds more like an autoharp to me. To someone else, maybe...but again, hedging my bets. PAINT IT, BLACK (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 6 - 9, 1966. Rel: May 6, 1966 (U.S. 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Castanets (?). K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Sitar and Acoustic Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass and Organ*. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano.** *Actually a second bass line, played by Wyman punching the organ's pedals. Wyman actually re-arranged this song during the session into the famous 45 arrangment. ** It's not known if any evidence of the earlier arrangement still exists on tape. The original version and the CD Version are different mixes. The original is shorter by about ten seconds, the difference being mainly due to mastering speeds. LONG LONG WHILE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 3 - 8, 1966.* Rel: May 13, 1966 (UK B-Side). M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). I. Stewart: Organ. Jack Nitszche: Piano, Tambourine (?). *Also recorded here was a version of THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS. This was never released, even on bootleg. CON LE MIE LACRIME (Jagger, Richard, Danpa)* Rec: March 15, 1966. Rel: Nov. 6, 1981 (comp. LP, SLOW ROLLERS) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Arrangement. Mike Leander: Arrangment, Harpsichord(?). plus uncredited strings and possibly harpsichord. *This is an Italian language version, recorded from scratch, of AS TEARS GO BY. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 6 Dec 2002 09:30:51 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 279 Message-ID: References: <3dec18fc.17375093@localhost> <3decc17a.60516025@localhost> <56a4e8b7.0212050945.54a70009@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1039195851 18407 127.0.0.1 (6 Dec 2002 17:30:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Dec 2002 17:30:51 GMT Guesswork ahoy!: BETWEEN THE BUTTONS (LP) Released January 20, 1967 YESTERDAY'S PAPERS (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 - 11 and Nov. 9 - 26, 1966* M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Guitar and Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Glockenspiel, Harpsichord (?). B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). Jack Nitszche: Harpsichord (?). *The mono version of this track is about 13 seconds long than the original stereo mix, with a further repeated refrain. MY OBSESSION (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 - 11* , Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec. 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Handclaps. K. Richard: Guitar(s?), Harmony Vocals. B. Jones: Piano (?)**. B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. I. Stewart: Piano (?)**. Jack Nitszche: Handclaps (?). *Brian Wilson was present for one of these RCA Sessions. He misdates the session to March though. **There doesn't appear to be a credit for piano attributed to one of the auxiliary pianists - despite the fact the style of the playing sounds a lot like Stu. If the song only took one session I'd be tempted so surmise that Jones wasn't present.(Mind you, Jones doesn' t seem to be on SHE SMILED SWEETLY) I'm hedging my bets here again. I mean, it could , I suppose, BE Brian Wilson! That'd be a gas!!Unfortunately, that's a damn slim chance! BACK STREET GIRL (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 - 11 and Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec. 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Vocal, Castanets(?). K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Accordion, Glockenspiel. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Tambourine. Jack Nitszche: Harpsichord.* *Performed as a overdub at the same time as the glock, according to a photo of the session. CONNECTION (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug 3 -11 and Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine, Handclaps. K. Richard: Lead Vocal, Lead / Rhythm Guitars, Handclaps, Bass (?). B. Jones: Guitar (?).* B. Wyman: Bass (?).* C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *Participation seems doubtful. The mono version is a few seconds longer than the stereo. SHE SMILED SWEETLY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug 3 -11 and Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Backing Vocal, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Organ, Backing Vocal. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). Jack Nitszche: Piano, Tambourine (?). COOL, CALM AND COLLECTED (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug 3 - 11 and Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal and Harmonica. K. Richard: Guitar, Kazoo.* B. Jones: Banjolele ( a Banjo-Ukelele)**. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. *You can tell, I think, by the sound of the voice through the kazoo that it's Keef. The kazoos also came out ('played' by Keith and Brian) during these sessions for a unreleased, but booted, and quite nonsensical cover of TROUBLE IN MIND, recorded at the November Olympic Studio dates. **Reportedly a child's toy.(!) ALL SOLD OUT (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Aug 3 - 11, Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec. 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Congas. K. Richard: Lead / Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Recorder. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I . Stewart: Piano (?), Organ (?).** Jack Nitszche: Piano (?), Organ (?).** *The original title of this song was "All Part of the Act". **Once again the keyboard credits are tough to substantiate. The keyboards could even be Brian or Bill, but I don't think it's likely. Brian was propped up to do this recorder part according to one story. PLEASE GO HOME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 -11 and Nov. 9 -26, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Maracas. K Richard: Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Cymbals*. I Stewart: Piano. Shirley Watts: Backing Vocal**(?). *Possibly overdubbed later. Anyway they're so loud and heavy they're worth noting separately for once. **According to one report. I can't see it (or hear it) myself. Still.... WHO'S BEEN SLEEPING HERE? (Jagger. Richard) Rec: Aug 3 -11, Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec. 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano. COMPLICATED (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 -11 and Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Tambourine (?), Maracas. K Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Organ. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). I. Stewart: Piano. Jack Nitszche: Tambourine (?). MISS AMANDA JONES (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug 3 -11, Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec. 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar (?), Organ (?). B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano, Organ (?). Jack Nitszche: Organ (?). SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME YESTERDAY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 3 -11, Nov. 9 - 26 and Dec 13, 1966. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Vocal, Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Saxophone, Trombone, Trumpet, Tuba. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. SONGS RECORDED AT THESE SESSIONS: HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER, BABY, STANDING IN THE SHADOW? (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug 3 -11 and Sept. 2, 1966.* Rel: Sept. 23, 1966 (UK / US 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Fingerclicks, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine (?). Jack Nitszche: Piano.** Mike Leander: Horn arrangement. plus uncredited trumpets. *** *The horns were probably overdubbed at the September session. **Keith pretended to play the keyboard part on the Ed Sullivan Show (Sept. 11). ***Possibly including session man Eddie Thornton ("Eddie's Dreaming!"). WHO'S DRIVING YOUR PLANE (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Aug 3 -11** and Sept. 2, 1966.*** Rel: Sept. 23, 1966. (UK / US B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitars. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano. *The song was known is the US as "Who's Driving My Plane". **Also recorded at the August sessions: GET YOURSELF TOGETHER (also booted as I'LL FEEL A WHOLE LOT BETTER (no relation to the Byrds' song) and I CAN SEE IT) - an uptempto soul stomper, and three instrumentals/ rhythm tracks logged as "Godzi", "Panama Powder Room" and "Something Brigitte Bardot" aka "Something B.B.". These tracks were not re-used under other names, but have not been booted. ***It's possible an unused horn arrangement was recorded at the Sept. 2 session. Also recorded at that session was the orchestral overdubs on MY GIRL. RUBY TUESDAY (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. Rel: Jan. 13, 1967 (UK B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: 12 String Acoustic Guitars, Harmony Vocals, "Double Bass"**. B. Jones: Piano*** and Recorder. B. Wyman: Bass, Double Bass**. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine.**** Jack Nitszche: Piano*****. *Actually written by Jones (music) and Richard (lyrics). The working title of the track was "Title 8". **Wyman fretted the double bass, Keith bowed the notes. ***Keith pretended to play this piano when the Stones mimed it on the Ed Sullivan Show, Sunday Night at the London Palladium and Top Of The Pops during January 1967. On Sullivan, Brian joined in with the live chorus vocals, but is inaudible. The piano part was transposed to electric guitar when the Stones performed this song live in Europe in Spring '67. ****An instrumental version of this song exists on bootleg. A count in is audible on the master tape just prior to the instrumental coda. *****There seems, perhaps, maybe, possibly etc., to be a second, more 'honky-tonk' piano on the chorus. This is Nitzsche, as it's generally held that Brian played the main verse piano, but Nitszche has a credit for piano on the session too. LET'S SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Nov. 9 - 26, 1966. Rel: Jan. 13, 1967 (UK 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Handclaps. K. Richard: Guitars, Bass*, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar (?), Piano**(?), Organ (?)*** B. Wyman: Bass, Handclaps. C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps. Jack Nitszche: Piano, Woodblock (?)**** Ian Stewart: Piano (?), Organ(?) *There appears, again, perhaps, to be two basses on the record. Wyman attributes one to Keith, so... **Not the main piano, though Brian mimed this part when the Stones performed on TV during Jan. 1967. ***Brian played organ on the Spring 1967 live versions, neglecting any piano part. ****Oldham tells an unlikely story about policemen playing their truncheons (nightsticks) on the track... DANDELION (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Nov. 9 - 26, 1966 and June 12 -13, 1967. Rel: Aug. 18, 1967 (UK B-Side, US 45) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals**, Maracas. K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Harpsichord, Saxophone. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *First the song was demoed as "Sometimes Happy, Sometimes Blue" with Keith running through guide vocal with 'la-la' words at one November session; the track then became known as "Fairground". It's not known whether the body of the track was recorded in 1967. The sound of the track argues against this, to me, at least. **One backing vocal seems to be raised in pitch artificially. Could be John and Paul I guess. IF YOU LET ME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Nov. 9 - 26, 1966.* Rel: June 6, 1975 (METAMORPHOSIS) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Guitar (?). B. Jones: Guitar (?), Electric Piano (?). B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Electric Piano (?). *Also recorded at these sessions: 'finishing up' Godzi and GET YOURSELF TOGETHER, plus TROUBLE IN MIND and ENGLISH SUMMER (Set for a single, but unreleased and unbooted.) At the December session a song, possibly just a rhythm track or working title called 'It's Been Quiet Here At Home' was laid down. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 10 Dec 2002 04:38:44 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 119 Message-ID: References: <3decc17a.60516025@localhost> <56a4e8b7.0212050945.54a70009@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1039523924 16734 127.0.0.1 (10 Dec 2002 12:38:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Dec 2002 12:38:44 GMT Briefly going towards, quite frankly, a bit of a blot on the Stones discography: GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT IT! (US LP) Released December 9, 1966. UNDER MY THUMB (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (Live): Oct. 1, 1966 (Studio): Oct. 11 - 20, 1966 (approx.)* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums.** I. Stewart: Marimba (?)*** *All studio overdubs performed on these dates, so it would be redundant to repeat these dates for every track. **The CD version reportedly has a different intro by the M.C. ***Inadequently miked. Unless Keith stupidly overdubbed a second guitar in the studio, that must be Stu on marimba, as two guitars can be clearly heard. GET OFF OF MY CLOUD (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 1, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums. LADY JANE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Vocal. K. Richard: Electric Guitar. B. Jones: Electric Dulcimer.* B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Reportedly the first electric dulcimer, this instrumental was stolen from a dressing room in 1967. NOT FADE AWAY (Hardin, Petty) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Vocal, Maracas. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Tambourine.* *Mounted on the kit. presumably. I don't have a current copy of some of these songs on this wretched album, only a shortened English version released as a compilation called GIMMIE SHELTER - the London CD has gone awol - so I can't check up on what I'd written about this record at the moment. I presume you'll correct where appropriate. THE LAST TIME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 1 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Lead / Rhythm Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Lead Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums. 19th NERVOUS BREAKDOWN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 1, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. TIME IS ON MY SIDE (Meade) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocal. C. Watts: Drums. I'M ALRIGHT (McDaniel) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Maracas. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER, BABY, STANDING IN THE SHADOW? (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocal. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums.* *The tape was reportedly SLOWED DOWN to try to capture the feel of the studio version of the song! And they're still putting this crappy album out (and charging full price for the damn thing!). Meanwhile, I don't think you can get CD versions of half of the far superior UK EP with the same name! (I CAN'T GET NO) SATISFACTION (Jagger, Richard) Rec: (live): Oct. 7, 1966 + studio. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Tambourine, Handclaps. K. Richard: Rhythm / Lead Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Lead / Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano*. *Interestingly, despite the cover' s claim, this album was not recorded at London's Royal Albert Hall, but in Newcastle and Bristol. Old studio versions of FORTUNE TELLER and I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU TOO LONG had crowd noise spliced in during the mixing of the LP in October. Studio overdubs seem mainly to consist of vocals. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 11 Dec 2002 09:54:40 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 199 Message-ID: References: <3decc17a.60516025@localhost> <56a4e8b7.0212050945.54a70009@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.48.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1039629280 27317 127.0.0.1 (11 Dec 2002 17:54:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Dec 2002 17:54:40 GMT THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES REQUEST (LP) Released December 8, 1967 SING THIS ALL TOGETHER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: July 7 -22, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Percussion*. K. Richard: Guitar and Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar, Hand-Drums (?), and Backing Vocals. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocals, Percussion. C. Watts: Drum, Backing Vocals, Percussion. Nicky Hopkins: Piano, Mellotron, Backing Vocals, Percussion (?). Eddie Kramer, Miles**, Robert Fraser, Marianne Faithfull, Tom Keylock, John Lennon (?), Paul McCartney (?), Anita Pallenberg, Suki Poitier (?), Glyn Johns, Shirley Watts (?), Astrid Wyman: Backing Vocals, Hand-Drums, Tambourine, Guiros, Congas, Bongos, Cowbell(s), Glockenspiel, Maracas, Shaker, Claves, Bells, Assorted percussion.*** plus uncredited trumpets, poss. featuring Eddie Thornton. *Obviously the percussion is impossible to attribute. **"Bangin' that pot!" according to Brian. Pot as in recepticle, not weed! ***The crowd is a bet-hedging based on reports. Some reports claim the two Beatles, there for We love You, Sang this All Together too. CITADEL (Jagger, Richard) Rec: June 9 and Oct. 2 - 5, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead Vocals, Backing Vocals, Maracas. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Mellotron, Saxophone, Harpsichord (?). B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Harpsichord (?), Piano.* *Mixed down or out of the final mix, but present during the rhythm track recordings. Nicky is the safest bet for the harpsichord. IN ANOTHER LAND (Bill Wyman)* Rec: Feb. 14 and 22, July 7 - 22, 1967. M. Jagger: Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Mellotron. B. Wyman: Lead Vocals, Bass.** C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Harpsichord, Piano. Steve Marriott: Backing Vocals, Guitar (?)***. *Working titles incuded 'Bill's Tune' and 'Acid In The Grass'. **Fitted with tremolo. The track at the end of Bill asleep, is credited on the tape box as "Snoring" (Wyman). ***The persistent idea that no other Stones except Bill and Charlie were present is apparently a myth, as they are seemingly heard on the original recording tapes in February. The vocal sessions were not til July, which is when Marriott recorded his contribution. Marriott's Small Faces partner Ronnie Lane was also reputed to be there, according to one source. But if he is, he's inaudible. Marriott's and the Stones' overdubbed backing vocals don't match, as can be proved by isolating each speaker. 2000 MAN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 10 - 30, Sept. 1- 7, 1967, Oct. 16, 21 and 23, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano, Organ. SING THIS ALL TOGETHER (SEE WHAT HAPPENS) (Jagger, Richard) Rec: July 7 -22, 1967.* M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals, Handclaps, Percussion, Bongos (?). K. Richard: Guitar and Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar, Mellotron (?), Backing Vocals, Hand-Drums, Flute, Saxophone. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocals, Percussion. C. Watts: Drums, Percussion, Backing Vocals, Cymbals, Tympani (?). Nicky Hopkins: Piano, Mellotron, Backing Vocals, Percussion. Eddie Kramer, Miles, Robert Fraser, Marianne Faithfull, Tom Keylock, John Lennon (?), Paul McCartney (?), Anita Pallenberg, Suki Poitier (?), Glyn Johns, Shirley Watts (?), Astrid Wyman: Backing Vocals, Hand-Drums, Tambourine, Guiros, Congas, Bongos, Cowbell(s), Glockenspiel, Maracas, Shaker, Claves, Bells, Assorted percussion. plus uncredited trumpets, poss. featuring Eddie Thornton. *Recorded with SING THIS ALL TOGETHER in one twelve minute track. On the LP, this track is suffixed with: COSMIC CHRISTMAS (Jagger, Richard? Wyman?) This is the snippet at the end, produced and engineered by Wyman, of a tortuous rendition of "We Wish You A Merry Christmas" electronically altered, and the slowed-down Stones chanting "We Hate You" - Nice. The track was listed on the tape box, but was not listed on the LP sleeve. SHE'S A RAINBOW (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: May 18, June 12 - 13, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead, Harmony and Backing Vocals**, Tambourine (?), Congas (?). K. Richard: 12 string Acoustic Guitar, Backing and Harmony Vocals, Guitar. B. Jones: Mellotron***, Violin (?), Viola (?), Cello (?).**** B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums, Congas (?), Tambourine (?). Nicky Hopkins: Piano. John Paul Jones: String Arrangement. Eddie Kramer: Congas or Tambourine.(?)***** *The working title was 'Lady Fair'. Then it became 'Flowers in Her / Your Hair". **One set of Backing Vocals was electronically sped up. ***On a brass setting. ****Photos and Keith's remembrences (admittedly shaky) say that Brian was possibly an entire overdubbed string quartet. Go figure! While this may or may not be true, it was worth a mention. *****Two sets of percussion plus drums are heard simultaneously on the live rhythm track. As engineer Kramer played percussion elsewhere on the album, I've named him as a likely candidate for either the congas or tambourine, though Mick is most likely the tambourine. THE LANTERN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: July 7-22 and Oct. 2 - 5, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals. K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars, Harmony Vocals. B. Jones: Slide Guitar and Mellotron. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. plus uncredited trumpets, possibly featuring Eddie Thornton. GOMPER (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Aug. 10 - 30 and Sept. 1 - 7, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Percussion. K. Richard: Electric Guitar and Harmony Vocal. B. Jones: Sitar, Panflute, Morrocan Drum. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Tabla. Nicky Hopkins: Mellotron. *Originally known as "The Lady, The Lillies and the Lake". 2000 LIGHT YEARS FROM HOME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Aug. 10 - 30 and Sept. 1 - 7, 1967.* M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals**, Maracas. K. Richard: Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Mellotron. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Eddie Kramer: Claves.*** *This originally featured a strange intro with children chanting the Stones' names like a nursery rhyme. **Jagger's backing vocal is electronically sped up. ***Mixed down. ON WITH THE SHOW (Jagger, Richard) Rec: July 7 - 22, 1967. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Maracas (?), Claves (?), Guiro (?), Cowbell (?), Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Harp*, Mellotron. B. Wyman: Bass, Maracas (?), Claves (?), Guiro (?), Cowbell (?), Tambourine (?). C. Watts: Drums, Maracas (?), Claves (?), Guiro (?), Cowbell (?), Tambourine (?). Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Eddie Kramer: Maracas (?), Claves (?), Guiro (?), Cowbell (?), Tambourine (?).** *An actual stringed harp, not a harmonica. **Obviously the percussion overdubs are hard to accredit. I've just listed what there is and the usual suspects to be on the safe side. OTHER SONGS RECORDED AT THESE SESSIONS: WE LOVE YOU (Jagger, Richard) Rec: June 12 - 13 and July 7 - 22, 1967.* Rel: Aug. 18, 1967 (UK. 45, US B-Side) M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Mellotron. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. John Lennon: Backing Vocals. Paul McCartney: Backing Vocals. *Originally this was to be the title track of the album which became Satanic Majesties. Other, unreleased songs recorded during 1967 include: SOUL BLUES, MAJESTIC HONKY TONK and GOLD PAINTED NAILS (all instrumentals / rhythm tracks - 'Nails' features a nice Jones harmonica track). These are all available on bootleg; February runthroughs of DUST MY BROOM and TROUBLE IN MIND, which aren't; unless 'Mind' consisted on overdubs to the 1966 version; early, tentative instrumental stabs at CHILD OF THE MOON (Oct.), and YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT (Feb.) - plus a host of working titles and things that could be working titles, plus instrumentals and rhythm tracks and unfinished songs about which nothing can be said for certain: Blues 1, Title 9 (aka Rock n' Roll Tune), Title 10, Blues III, Title 5, Blues Jam (all Feb.); Blow Me Mama (March); Manhole Cover, Surprise Me; She's Doing Her Thing, Bathroom / Toilet and Fly High As A Kite (all October). Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 17 Dec 2002 13:57:54 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 240 Message-ID: References: <56a4e8b7.0212121533.3d6da8d@posting.google.com> <3DFA282B.910D10D6@club-internet.fr> <3DFC781E.3BB8417B@club-internet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.32.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1040162274 30917 127.0.0.1 (17 Dec 2002 21:57:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Dec 2002 21:57:54 GMT Some more discussion fodder (but I've not checked those lyrics yet!): BEGGARS BANQUET (LP) Released December 6, 1968 SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: June 4-10, 1968.** M. Jagger: Lead / Backing Vocals, Hand-Drum. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Bass, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals. B. Wyman: Maracas, Cabasa, Backing Vocals.*** C. Watts: Drums, Backing Vocals. Nicky Hopkins: Piano.**** Rocky Dijon: Congas, Cowbell (?). Jimmy Miller: Cowbell (?). Marianne Faithfull, Anita Pallenberg*****, Glyn Johns (?), Nicky Hopkins: Backing Vocals. *The working title was 'The Devil Is My Name'. **Recorded on one of the days was a jam, possibly known as LADY or 'London Jam', featuring Watts on tabla and Wyman on acoustic guitar. LADY may be something else, recorded on May 13 - 21, 1968. ***Wyman played bass on the early takes. ****Hopkins played organ on early takes. *****Sometimes misidentfied as Suki Poitier, Brian's girlfriend at the time. NO EXPECTATIONS (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 13 - 21, June 4 - 10, 1968.* M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Acoustic Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Claves. I. Stewart: Organ. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. *An alternate take is found on bootleg. DEAR DOCTOR (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 13 -21, 1968.* M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals. K. Richard: Vocal and Acoustic Guitars. B.Jones: Harmonica. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Cymbal, Tambourine. Nicky Hopkins: 'Barrelhouse' Piano. *An alternate take, Take One, is found on vocals. It features a single Jagger vocal, rather than the Jagger / Richard duet found on the LP. PARACHUTE WOMAN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 17 - Apr. 1, June 30 and July 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocals and Harmonica. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Slide Guitar (?). B. Jones: Slide Guitar (?). B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Dave Mason: Lead Guitar. JIGSAW PUZZLE (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 17 - Apr. 1, June 30 and July 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Acoustic Guitar (?)*. K. Richard: Slide Guitar, Acoustic Guitar (?)*. B. Jones: Flute. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. *Reportedly Jagger made his debut on acoustic guitar on this LP; this seems to be the most likely suspect, but Keith is an even likelier suspect still. In the spirit of hedging my bets, I've mentioned Jagger on guitar here. I think it's Keith though. STREET FIGHTING MAN (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Feb. - Mar, Mar. 17 - Apr. 1, May 13 - 21, June 30 - July 1968**. M. Jagger: Lead and Harmony Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitars, Bass, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Tamboura. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Jimmy Miller: Claves, Tambourine. Dave Mason: Shehnai. *Originally known as 'Primo Grande', then announced as a single under the title DID EVERYBODY PAY THEIR DUES? (aka PAY YOUR DUES) - see entry below. **An alternate mix was pressed as the US single, then recalled swiftly. PRODIGAL SON (Rev. Robert Wilkins) Rec: May 13 -21, June 24 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica (?). K. Richard: Aocustic Guitar. B. Jones: Harmonica(?). C. Watts: Drum, Cymbal. Ry Cooder: Acoustic Guitar. STRAY CAT BLUES (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Apr. 3, May 13 - 21, 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocals*. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars. B. Jones: Mellotron. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Rocky Dijon: Congas. *An alternate mix exists on bootleg, with extra vocals at the end. FACTORY GIRL (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 13 - 21, 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitars. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Bongos. Dave Mason: Mandolin. Ric Gretch: Fiddle. SALT OF THE EARTH (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: May 9 - 10, 13 - 21, June 30 and July 1968. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Lead Vocal and Acoustic Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. plus uncredited backing singers "from Watts". *The working title of this song was 'Silver Blanket'. OTHER SONGS RECORDED DURING THESE SESSIONS: JUMPIN' JACK FLASH (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: March 17- Apr. 1, Apr. 20, Apr. 27**, 1968. Rel: May 24, 1968 (UK 45). M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals***, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead Guitar, Bass, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Rhythm Guitar, Maracas. B. Wyman: Organ. ****. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano (?). *The working title of this song was 'Title 5'. Bill Wyman actually came up with the riff. (See below). **A different, faster version was recorded on Apr. 27 for the promo video. ***A take featuring just the rhythm track and backing vocals exists on bootleg. ****Keith definitely plays bass on 'Flash'. Wyman wrote the riff on electric piano, and states in his new book that he's the organ on the track.... CHILD OF THE MOON (Jagger, Richard) Rec: March 17 - Apr. 1, 1968.* Rel: May 24, 1968 (UK B-Side)**. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Saxophones. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano, Organ. *An alternate, acoustic version of CHILD OF THE MOON was recorded during these sessions, featuring a country style piano from Nicky Hopkins. It remains unreleased and unbooted. A take sans the lead vocal has been booted though. **Jones actually wanted this song as the A-Side of the single. DID EVERYBODY PAY THEIR DUES? (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Feb / Mar., Mar. 17 - Apr. 1, Apr. 3, 1968.* Rel: Bootleg only. M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitars, Bass, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Tamboura. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Jimmy Miller: Tambourine, Claves. Ric Gretch: Electric Violin. Dave Mason: Shehnai. Roger Chapman, Jim King**: Backing Vocals. *After which it became STREET FIGHTING MAN and the lyrics and mix were changed. Whilst it was still 'Primo Grande' it was subject to a runthrough at Keith' shouse, Redlands, in February or March 1968, along with informal stabs at ROCK ME, BABY and HOLD ON, I'M COMING. **From the band Family. No relation to... FAMILY (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 13 - 21, June 28 ,1968*. Rel: June 6, 1975 (LP, METAMORPHOSIS) M. Jagger: Vocal, Maracas, Tambourine (?). K. Richard: Acoustic and Electric Guitar. B. Jones: Acoustic Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Jimmy Miller: Tambourine (?). **An electric take of FAMILY was also run through during these sessions. At the June sessions, three cuts were laid down about which nothing is known: 'Too Far To Walk', 'Power Cut' and 'Thief for the Blues' - were they rhythm tracks, working titles or finished songs? DOWNTOWN SUZIE (Wyman)* Rec: May 13 - 21, 1968, Apr. 23, 1969. Rel: June 6, 1975 (LP, METAMORPHOSIS)** M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals.*, Bongos (?), Handclaps. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Backing Vocals, Handclaps (?). B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass, Backing Vocals (?), Handclaps.(?). C. Watts: Drums, Handclaps (?). Rocky Dijon: Bongos (?). *Sometimes known as 'Downtown Lucy' or 'Sweet Lucy'. **Wyman pulled it off Beggars Banquet himself because he didn't feel it met the standard of the LP! ***Wyman told me in 2000 that Jagger 'took the mickey' out of [mocked] Wyman's singing, therefore Jagger sang it himself. Wyman also noted that Jagger mocked the song too! TWO TRAINS RUNNING (STILL A FOOL) (Morganfield) Rec: May 13 - 21, 1968.* Rel: Bootleg only.** M. Jagger: Lead Vocal and Harmonica. K. Richard: Guitar. B. Jones: Slide Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *Also recorded at these sessions were the elusive LADY and the soulful STUCK OUT ALL ALONE (aka Hamburger To Go), which has been booted, plus the fantastic BLOOD RED WINE, a brooding acoustic ballad which, despite being a little out of tune at the beginning, easily rates, like TWO TRAINS RUNNING, among the very best unreleased Stones songs. One of the lyrical themes were re-used for WINTER. **A ten minute blues, this is absolutely fantastic. Also recorded in May, 1968 were early takes of SISTER MORPHINE and LOVE IN VAIN. Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: DOCTORMIDN...@aol.com (John Moores) Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.stones Subject: Re: The Stones - Who played what? The Brian Jones years Date: 20 Dec 2002 05:55:32 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 299 Message-ID: References: <7c258ef0.0212180227.4d87a044@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.93.48.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1040392532 5525 127.0.0.1 (20 Dec 2002 13:55:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Dec 2002 13:55:32 GMT (Just about) the end of the road - but hopefully not the thread: LET IT BLEED (LP) Released December 5, 1969 GIMME SHELTER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Feb. 23 - 25, March 15, Oct. 18, Oct. 28 - Nov. 3, 1969. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals.* B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Jimmy Miller: Guiro, Maracas, Afuche. Merry Clayton: Vocal.** *A version exists with Keith doing the guide vocal. Those 'ooo's' at the beginning could quite possibly BE Keith, strangely enough. **Taped early one morning in November. Bonnie Bramlett was the Stones' first choice. LOVE IN VAIN (Robert Johnson)* Rec: May 23, 1968, and Mar. 24, 26, 27, 1969. M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic and Slide Guitars. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Ry Cooder: Mandolin. *Credited to Jagger / Richard on some early pressings, later amended to 'Woody Payne'. COUNTRY HONK (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 12 - June 7, June 10- July 12, Nov. 2 - 3, 1969. M. Jagger: Lead Vocals. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar, Harmony Vocal. C. Watts: Drums. Mick Taylor: Slide Guitar. Byron Berline: Fiddle. Sam Cutler: Car Horn.* Nanette Newman: Backing Vocal. *Actually added as an o.d. in the studio, rather than as a passing car on the fiddle track, which has always been claimed to have been recorded outside. A 'clean' version with no outdoor effects exists on bootleg. LIVE WITH ME (Jagger, Richard) Rec: May 12 - June 7, Nov. 2 - 3, 1969 M. Jagger: Lead Vocals. K. Richard: Rhythm Guitar, Bass, Backing Vocals. C. Watts: Drums. Mick Taylor: Lead / Rhythm Guitar.* Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Bobby Keys: Saxophone. Leon Russell: Piano**, Horn Arrangement. *The May 14 session was his audition; the May 24 session was his first session as a Stone. **Added in November. LET IT BLEED (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: March 9, June 10 - July 2, 1969 M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals. K. Richard: Electric Slide and Acoustic Guitars. B. Wyman: Bass, Autoharp. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano. *The working title of this song was 'If You Need Someone'. MIDNIGHT RAMBLER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Feb. 9 - 10, Mar. 10 - 11, 1969 M. Jagger: Lead and Backing Vocals, Harmonica. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars. B. Jones: Tribal Drums.* B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. *Two massive drums, played in the middle section after Mick sings "Well, you heard about the Boston...". They look like huge doubeks, but are played with beaters. A photo from this session, with Brian preparing these drums, was used as the cover to THE PROMOTIONAL ALBUM in late 1969. YOU GOT THE SILVER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Feb. 9 - 10, 17*, 18, 1969. K. Richard: Lead Vocal, Electric, Slide and Acoustic Guitars. B. Jones: Autoharp. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano, Organ. *A version with Jagger on lead vocal was taped at this session. It's available on bootleg. MONKEY MAN (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Apr. 17, 19, 20, 22, June 10 - July 2, 1969.** M. Jagger: Lead Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars. B. Wyman: Bass, Vibes. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. Jimmy Miller: Tambourine. *The working title for this song was 'Positano Primo'. Positano was the place in Italy where Mick and Keith had written the song. **At the April sessions, the Stones also recorded a song (which could be a working title) called WHEN OLD GLORY COMES ALONG. It hasn't been booted. At the June / July sessions, the Stones recorded a marathon numbers of tracks, bound for different fates: JIVING SISTER FANNY (a 12 bar chugger), I'M GOING DOWN (which was worked on July 14 -1 5, 1970, wherein Stephen Stills overdubbed guitar and Bill Plummer dubbed upright bass) and I DON'T KNOW WHY (a Stevie Wonder song that also exists in a longer version on bootleg) - these three all ended up on Metamorphosis in 1975; DON' T KNOW WHY was an unsanctioned A-Side in May 1975 and JIVING was likewise a B-Side in August of that year also. Both flopped). Exile's SWEET VIRGINIA and STOP BREAKING DOWN began their life here, dubbed and overdubbed during the 1970 - 72 period, and an acoustic, much-booted demo of ALL DOWN THE LINE with incomplete words was laid down too. The beginnings of the official take were taped later in the month. The Exile quintet (see below for info on SHINE A LIGHT) are completed by a completely different take of LOVING CUP, here called 'Gimme a Drink' and played at Hyde Park in July. The alternate take is 6:30 long and is available on boot. The official take, sans overdubs and running 5:42, was also reputedly put down at this time. Finally, there was the unbooted THE VULTURE (unless it's also known as (I'M A) HIGHWAY CHILD, in which case it has been booted.), TOSS THE COIN (which is definitely unbooted), plus the booted I DON'T THE REASON WHY, a seven and a half minute track heavily featuring Bobby Keys. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Nov. 16, 17, 1968 and March 15, 1969.* M. Jagger: Lead Vocals, Maracas (?). K. Richard: Electric and Acoustic Guitars. B. Wyman: Bass. Jack Nitszche: Choral Arrangements, Maracas (?). Al Kooper: Piano, Organ, French Horn. Jimmy Miller: Drums, Maracas (?). Rocky Dijon: Congas, Tambourine. Nanette Newman, Madeline Bell, Doris Troy: Backing Vocals, Handclaps. plus the London Bach Choir**. *Brian Jones missed these sessions, preferring to 'read a book on Botany'. A single version, two and a half minutes shorter than the album version was released as the B-Side of HONKY TONK WOMEN. *Added at the 1969 session.OTHER SONGS RECORDED AT THESE SESSIONS: MEMO FROM TURNER (Jagger, Richard) Rec: Nov. 17, 1968. Rel: June 6 ,1975 (LP, METAMORPHOSIS) M. Jagger: Lead Vocals, Acoustic Guitar (?). K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Acoustic Guitars (?)*. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Al Kooper: Piano, Organ. *Jagger is more likely to have been acoustic guitar here. This is not the version released on single, for the Performance soundtrack, but the rejected Stones version. The other version featured Mick and members of Traffic. Jagger also recorded a short, solo acoustic COME ON IN MY KITCHEN for the soundtrack, accompanying ihmself on guitar. Also, Jagger delivered the Moog based insturmental soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Invocation of My Demon Brother (rel. 1969) at around this time. The next thing the Stones recorded, on Dec 10 - 11, 1968, was the Rock N' Roll Circus program, which was eventually released in 1996. The Stones, augmented by Nicky Hopkins (piano) and Rocky Dijon (congas, maracas), played: JUMPIN' JACK FLASH, PARACHUTE WOMAN (feat. Mick on harmonica), YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT, NO EXPECTATIONS (plus an unreleased alternate take with Mick on acoustic guitar), SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (w/ Brian uncomfortably shuffling the maracas), ROUTE 66 (unreleased), YONDER'S WALL (unreleased), WALKIN' BLUES (unreleased), CONFESSIN' THE BLUES (unreleased) and sang along with the track of SALT OF THE EARTH. In addition, Keith played bass with 'The Dirty Mac', John Lennon's ad hoc band. Multiple takes of most of the Stones songs were recorded. Two weeks previous, the Stones laid down a track of SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL for Frost on Saturday. Keith sang back-ups, played guitar and (uncommonly) a bit of tambourine, Rocky Dijon played congas, Brian played piano and he and Bill apparently sang back-ups into 'dead' mikes, according to James Karnbach. Unfortunately , this program has not turned up on bootleg audio or video. HONKY TONK WOMEN [VERSION ONE] (Jagger, Richard)* Rec: Mar. 10 - 11, 16**?), May 12, 14, 25, 28, 1969. Rel: Not released. M. Jagger: Lead Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Jones: Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Nicky Hopkins: Piano. S. Gregory: Sax***. G. Beadle: Sax***. Madeline Bell (and others): Backing Vocals.**** *Ry Cooder claims the Stones stole this from him. Brian Jones' father claims that Brian arranged it. **At this session the Stones recorded something called 'Pennies From Heaven', which became something else (we don't know what), and a song called THE JIMMY MILLER SHOW. What that is is unknown, as it's never been booted. ***Recorded on 25 May. ****Recorded on 28 May. Scrapped in favour of: HONKY TONK WOMEN (Jagger, Richard) Rec: June 1 - 7, 1969. Rel: July 3, 1969 (UK / US 45) M. Jagger: Lead Vocals. K. Richard: Lead and Rhythm Guitars, Backing Vocals. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. I. Stewart: Piano.(?) Nicky Hopkins: Piano (?) Mick Taylor: Lead Guitar.* Bobby Keys: Saxophones.(?) S. Gregory: Sax (?). G. Beadle: Sax (?). Jimmy Miller: Cowbell. Reparta and the Delrons (Mary Aiese, Lorainne Mazzola and Nanette Licars): Backing Vocals.(?) Nanette Newman: Backing Vocals (?). *Brian Jones' guitar tracks were presumably wiped and replaced with Taylor's. Taylor apparently plays the fills in between verses. SISTER MORPHINE (Jagger, Richard, Faithfull)* Rec: March 22 - 23**, 28, 30***, 31****, 1969 Rel: April 23, 1971 (LP, STICKY FINGERS) M. Jagger: Lead Vocal. K. Richard: Acoustic Guitar. B. Wyman: Bass. C. Watts: Drums. Jack Nitszche: Piano. Ry Cooder: Slide Guitar. *Faithfull was not mentioned on early pressing of Sticky Fingers. **Brian Jones attempted to play on this early take, unsucessfully on congas, then on harmonica. Mick told him to "just go home". A song named I WAS A COUNTRY BOY was laid down on the March 23 session. The instrumental track is available on bootleg, but reputably a vocal version exists. Jones apparently plays on this. ***The Stones (sans Brian) also recorded a jam they dubbed 'Busk Up' on this day. ****Also recorded (without Brian) at this session were two booted rhythm tracks, 'French Gig' and 'Aladdin Story', and an ealry stab at SHINE A LIGHT, from Exile on Main St. The Stones had another bash at this on June 10 - July 2, 1969 and July 23, 1970 and finally Dec. 1971 - Mar. 1972. They returned to 'Aladdin Story' on Oct. 17 -31, 1970. Next Jagger, Wyman, Watts, Nicky Hopkins and Ry Cooder recorded a 'jam' album waiting for Keith or Brian to show up (they never did) on April 23 , 1969. This was released as JAMMING WITH EDWARD (Edward being Hopkins' nickname) in 1972. The LP consisted of: BLOW WITH RY, BOUDOIR STOMP, EDWARD' S THRUMP UP, INTERLUDE A LA EL HOPO, HIGHLAND FLING and IT HURTS ME TOO. Left on the cutting room floor were CURTIS MEETS SMOKEY, SO FINE (the old 50s number by the Fiestas, also covered by Clarence White on the Byrds' Farther Along LP?)and another stab at / ovedubs on Wyman's DOWNTOWN SUZIE. Jagger plays harmonica and sings a little, particularly on IT HURTS ME TOO. Six days later, the Stones (minus Brian, but plus Stu) recorded another jam they dubbed 'Mucking About'. They would commit an untitled blues jam to tape on June 14 too. Brian, meanwhile, was spending his last month alive taping his own songs at his home. Some are untitled blues instrumentals, but some are actual songs with vocals, most notably CHOW TIME and HAS ANYBODY SEEN MY BABY? (ironically close to the name of a 1997 Stones single). These remain unbooted. Brian was also reportedly fond of singing Dylan's 'To Be Alone With You' at this time, so maybe that would've been taped. Precious little exists of Brian's solo output - aside from the Degree of Murder soundtrack, composed by Brian and featuring Jimmy Page, Kenny Jones and singer Peter Gosling - but NME journalist Keith Altham remembers hearing a strange, experimental tape that sounded like "electronic" chanting c. 1966 and ex-girlfriend Linda Lawrence says that Brian played her his songs regularly but dismissed them as "too sentimental". Apparently they were "romantic and spiritual" and "about his feelings". Jones left some of them with Al Aronowitz. The lyric sheet is titled "(THANK YOU) FOR BEING THERE?! and some of it runs thus: A need for satisfaction grows, But they're stories to be told. Of experience and fantasies Of visions and fears. But when the visions fade - you'll be there. The Brian Jones era was over.